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Post by stepstr on Apr 30, 2022 19:55:53 GMT
Disgrace.
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Post by highroyds on May 1, 2022 8:25:13 GMT
UghhhHHHHHHH
The thing is, deep inside my heart I've been hoping they were maybe in touch privately, not besties but at least civil. Don't judge me. But Tom seems to be burning the absolute fuck out of these bridges.
There's a cockiness that obviously used to be charming but I feel he hasn't quite earned back yet. It's all built on this vague idea of being the wronged party.
The t-shirts. Let's sell merch with the phrase that people have been using to harrass my former best friends for the past 2 years, directly implying that they're the bad guys in this situation. Nobody thought that was weird?
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Post by flipflop on May 1, 2022 13:57:30 GMT
UghhhHHHHHHH The thing is, deep inside my heart I've been hoping they were maybe in touch privately, not besties but at least civil. Don't judge me. But Tom seems to be burning the absolute fuck out of these bridges. There's a cockiness that obviously used to be charming but I feel he hasn't quite earned back yet. It's all built on this vague idea of being the wronged party. The t-shirts. Let's sell merch with the phrase that people have been using to harrass my former best friends for the past 2 years, directly implying that they're the bad guys in this situation. Nobody thought that was weird? I'm gutted about those t-shirts. I hadn't made any assumptions on how the band's relationship was with Tom privately, but I'd hoped that whatever it was, they'd keep it private. Not try to make us pick sides. I have had reservations about some of what Tom's said since the incident, and his new stuff doesn't hugely appeal to me, but live and let live etc. But those t-shirts are unpleasant. And anyone who buys one is paying to be a crowd extra in someone else's drama. Stuff that. My other worry is that so far Kasabian have kept their counsel, but this hostility is going to push them into telling their side of the story, and it could get really ugly. I mean, it's already ugly, but newspaper ugly, not just fandom ugly. Just makes me so sad.
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Post by eyh on May 1, 2022 18:22:22 GMT
Honestly the behaviour of Tom, his “management” and team (including his wife….I won’t forget the cover band comment, that told me all I needed to know about her) is abhorrent and a disgrace.
After everything first happened I didn’t despise Tom; I obviously found it appalling what he’d done but I didn’t despise him completely for it. But now after all that’s being said and done he has proved what a vile human he is and I truly hope the rest of the band “out” him with the truth about what I’m sure really went on.
His “management” is also really dodgy; I’ve noticed they’ve changed their name again this week. They were coalition music a couple of months ago, then bulletproof management for a month or so, now they’re trinity music management this week. Something weird going on there. The woman who runs it though I noticed yesterday has been pushing the “no Tom no party” line quite a bit too. Vile woman.
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Post by runningbattle on May 2, 2022 8:27:56 GMT
Think some people need to take a step back and breathe.
Watch this video. There's no malice. 'No Tom No Party' isn't a dig at Kasabian, it's more to do with him simply being a great frontman.
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Post by highroyds on May 2, 2022 9:22:34 GMT
'No Tom No Party' isn't a dig at Kasabian, it's more to do with him simply being a great frontman. Without context it's fine. I don't think anyone would care if the phrase didn't originate from his supporters spamming Kasabian's social media with it and other nonsense since the day they announced his departure. Him claiming that phrase and effectively endorsing what they do just feels gross.
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Post by eyh on May 2, 2022 11:02:04 GMT
'No Tom No Party' isn't a dig at Kasabian, it's more to do with him simply being a great frontman. Without context it's fine. I don't think anyone would care if the phrase didn't originate from his supporters spamming Kasabian's social media with it and other nonsense since the day they announced his departure. Him claiming that phrase and effectively endorsing what they do just feels gross. Exactly.
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Post by eyh on May 2, 2022 11:10:00 GMT
Think some people need to take a step back and breathe. Watch this video. There's no malice. 'No Tom No Party' isn't a dig at Kasabian, it's more to do with him simply being a great frontman. “No Tom No Party” was created by people to abuse the rest of the band, or mainly just Serge actually. The use of it now is exactly the same, it is a phrase to abuse Kasabian. That is a fact. Tom and his management are endorsing and encouraging the abuse of Kasabian. What Tom said in that interview about Serge and the band is totally at odds to everything else that has been said and done by himself, his wife and management. There absolutely is malice. There’s also several digs at Serge throughout the rest of the interview (electronic bullshit, they’re my songs as much as Serge’s) so he even contradicts himself in that interview. He’s a wanker and “his” music is embarrassingly bad. I’ve been a Kasabian fan since the first album, seen them so many times throughout the years and it is devastating to find out someone I used to adore is such a cunt. It’s definitely still raw and every time I listen to Kasabian with Tom’s voice it’s just triggering, and I hate that he’s ruined songs I loved.
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Post by Ang1 on May 2, 2022 11:16:28 GMT
With loads of people keep saying Where’s Tom etc are these people going to his gigs as I keep seeing stuff about crowd fillers with free tickets or Liverpool £5 tickets.I have listened to his stuff and apart from Moving on it’s all a bit bland.
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Post by pip on May 2, 2022 11:49:50 GMT
"I’ve been a Kasabian fan since the first album, seen them so many times throughout the years and it is devastating to find out someone I used to adore is such a cunt. It’s definitely still raw and every time I listen to Kasabian with Tom’s voice it’s just triggering, and I hate that he’s ruined songs I loved.".
Thank you for putting into words exactly how I feel. I knew from the moment the news broke about the assault, that I never wanted to see, or hear, Tom Meighan again, he sickens me. What he did, in front of a child, brings back too many memories of the times my step-dad assaulted my mum, and there is never an excuse for this kind of abuse.
I've mainly avoided posting in response to the comments from former Kasabian fans, on Kasabian's socials, other than to point out we can all just support whichever side (and there are sides) we wish without commenting on the other, as I find them juvenile and repetitive.
I find it bizarre that they consider it fine to mock the band for continuing, blaming them for Tom's departure, when the fact is they did what they had to do and it is Tom who caused all the issues. Also, I firmly believe that many of the short-notice cancellation of gigs in years gone by were highly likely to have been as a result of Tom not being in a fit state to perform, absolutely down to him.
I hope both can continue performing and that the fans can continue to support just Kasabian, just Tom, or both, as they wish.
The morons who continue with the "No Tom, no party" narrative can just fuck right off, silly little children.
I'm looking forward to there being more Kasabian songs in which Tom does not feature, then I'll be able to listen to them again.
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Post by stepstr on May 3, 2022 9:51:55 GMT
With loads of people keep saying Where’s Tom etc are these people going to his gigs as I keep seeing stuff about crowd fillers with free tickets or Liverpool £5 tickets.I have listened to his stuff and apart from Moving on it’s all a bit bland. Is that true about free tickets just to fill up the room? Oh dear.
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Post by stepstr on May 3, 2022 10:07:03 GMT
By the way, what is the legal side of performing songs you didn't write? I assume the original writer, Serge, had to give some kind of approval? I might be wrong, though. But this whole thing with 'I'm moving on but keep singing old bangers' doesn't completely agree with me.
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Post by highroyds on May 3, 2022 13:20:32 GMT
By the way, what is the legal side of performing songs you didn't write? I assume the original writer, Serge, had to give some kind of approval? I might be wrong, though. But this whole thing with 'I'm moving on but keep singing old bangers' doesn't completely agree with me. You can cover whatever you want, no permission required.
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Post by Ang1 on May 3, 2022 13:52:00 GMT
With loads of people keep saying Where’s Tom etc are these people going to his gigs as I keep seeing stuff about crowd fillers with free tickets or Liverpool £5 tickets.I have listened to his stuff and apart from Moving on it’s all a bit bland. Is that true about free tickets just to fill up the room? Oh dear. Yes it’s true ,maybe with all the gigs bar Leicester being poor sellers he hopefully realises that he isn’t as popular as what he thought and crawls back under that rock.
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Post by Ang1 on May 3, 2022 13:58:01 GMT
What Pip said hit the nail on the head.
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