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Post by Ang1 on Jul 7, 2020 13:57:00 GMT
Good riddance and feel really saddened by all this especially as this wasn't the first time.He has tainted the band and now understand why the statement was put in the way it was.No excuse what so ever for anyone to behave in that way ,mental abuse and violence.I feel so sorry for the child to have witnessed this and i hope Vikki will mend in the future and not be scarred for life
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Post by pistolsatdawn on Jul 7, 2020 14:24:41 GMT
I read almost everything about Tom today and the more I read, the less I have sympathy for him. My thoughts are with his ex-missus, hope she's ok and hope he gets treatment and be better. Like others, I need some time to let myself listen to Kasabian again. It hurts so bad. I think the rest of members know what happened, that's why their social media is full of Sergio doing this and that and nothing mentioned Tom's new social media accounts or live chat. I hope they'll take a break and carry on without Tom, the rest of the band don't deserve the stain that Tom had done
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Post by highroyds on Jul 7, 2020 14:47:15 GMT
I think the rest of members know what happened, that's why their social media is full of Sergio doing this and that and nothing mentioned Tom's new social media accounts or live chat. I hope they'll take a break and carry on without Tom, the rest of the band don't deserve the stain that Tom had done They must have known, there's no way that all went down yesterday morning. Which makes it more disturbing that he's been chatting so casually about the new album. I think you might be right about them staying silent about Tom's activities on social media, but the focus has been on Serge for a long time as well, that's not a new thing.
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Post by levitate on Jul 7, 2020 15:14:50 GMT
It's not helpful to speculate on the other members. We have no idea what happened behind the scenes, and the last time we tried to speculate we got it very, very wrong. Until we get evidence explicitly proving the rest of Kasabian were in the wrong, I'd like to believe they're innocent in this. If I got anything from the original statement, it's that they don't want to be dragged into this.
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Post by runningbattle on Jul 7, 2020 15:31:15 GMT
My wife is a Probation Officer and she reviewed the full extent of his sentencing earlier. Although the 200-days of unpaid work are the main headline, he will have to undergo months of work with his probation team for his alcohol abuse and the 'Building Better Relationships' team.
Interestingly, the court report alludes to the fact that Tom's already been in rehab in May and has taken steps since to change.
As I've said earlier, I truly hope this is a bottoming out of his personal life and a chance to hit the reset button with a shedload more humility, one would hope.
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Post by lunatic on Jul 7, 2020 16:53:09 GMT
This is so very shocking and heartbreaking. It’s been an emotional roller coaster. I’ve been following them since 2007. Seen them live 14 times. Those were some of the happiest days of my life because they really are the greatest live band. I was so happy to get ticket for Summer Solstice, so happy telling everyone we’ll be seeing our beloved boys again, enjoying their epic tunes and endless energy. Oh god, they do make a girl happy!
Leicester gig was cancelled, not postponed. Can you imagine, we were supposed to stand there having the time of our lives just two and a half weeks ago! Then we got this horrible statement and 24 hours after that we were reading about the real reasons behind this mess.
I’ve met Tom a couple of times. What a charming man he can be. But we don’t know him. What he did is absolutely wrong. I hope his victims get support and are not traumatized for the rest of their lives. I hope Tom gets the help he needs. I’m also very worried about him. Will there be someone looking after him? I feel so sorry for the rest of the band. I feel so sorry for all Kasabian fans. As if 2020 wasn’t bad enough already..
It’s hard to imagine Kasabian without Tom. He really is the greatest frontman of his generation. At the same it’s almost impossible to imagine Kasabian with Tom after this shit storm. It’s difficult to admit he is not the man I thought he is. It’s heartbreaking to know that Tom and Serge may not be friends ever again and do their bromance stuff onstage. It’s devastating to imagine life without Tom screaming ”I”m on fiiiiiiire” ever again.
I want to keep all my good memories and forget this brutal end. This is like experiencing 2009 Oasis split up all over again. This time there is no band as good as Kasabian to keep myself thinking that rock’n’roll is not completely dead. Love music, love bands, love Kasabian, but times like this I wish I would be interested in ice skating or collecting stamps instead.
Wishing you all good health and some positive thougths during these awful months. Let’s hope for better times!
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Post by highroyds on Jul 7, 2020 19:41:23 GMT
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Post by shazza on Jul 7, 2020 19:44:39 GMT
To be honest I feel ill, it’s so hard to get my head around this. I keep reading about the case. I want to make it clear that I know however hard this is for us fans, we are not the victims, and when I describe how I’m trying to get my head around this, I do not mean to dismiss or downplay the seriousness of what’s happened.
It’s a really weird thing to go through as a fan though. Like usually when I’m upset I’ll put Kasabian on but they’re the last thing I want to listen to just now. I selfishly feel bad that it’s highly unlikely I’ll see them live again. There’s usually a tour, or the hope of a tour round the corner to look forward to and now that’s gone. The same with new music. Again I know this is the smallest problem in the whole situation. But it is hard when a band that has been such a big part of my life for so long, and what they mean to me, is all turned upside down.
I wish I could just switch off from this, but right now I can’t think about anything else, it’s just such a shock. I don’t know about anyone else but this will take me a while to get my head around. If I told people outside of fandom this it would sound so petty. But for so many of us, music is life, I know it is for me.
Anyway, I’m sorry this turned into an essay, I feel horrible for feeling a bit sorry for myself, because honestly my thoughts are with the victims and anyone who’s been directly affected by this. But let’s be real, it is really shit as a fan, I never thought this would happen to this fandom.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 7, 2020 20:02:01 GMT
I appreciate them taking such a firm stance in the new statement, and also calling out Tom's bullshit statement yesterday, but it hurts and hurts.
I feel selfish too for hoping they'll be back together one day. I can't bear the idea of them not being friends. Nevermind going on tour or anything, just be there for him. I really don't believe that the Tom we knew was a complete lie. Even if it feels like that right now.
Oasis breaking up was nowhere near this terrible. It was a shock and I was heartbroken, but they were just being dicks. Nothing like this. Him of all people.
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Post by runningbattle on Jul 7, 2020 20:05:28 GMT
To be honest I feel ill, it’s so hard to get my head around this. I keep reading about the case. I want to make it clear that I know however hard this is for us fans, we are not the victims, and when I describe how I’m trying to get my head around this, I do not mean to dismiss or downplay the seriousness of what’s happened.
It’s a really weird thing to go through as a fan though. Like usually when I’m upset I’ll put Kasabian on but they’re the last thing I want to listen to just now. I selfishly feel bad that it’s highly unlikely I’ll see them live again. There’s usually a tour, or the hope of a tour round the corner to look forward to and now that’s gone. The same with new music. Again I know this is the smallest problem in the whole situation. But it is hard when a band that has been such a big part of my life for so long, and what they mean to me, is all turned upside down. I wish I could just switch off from this, but right now I can’t think about anything else, it’s just such a shock. I don’t know about anyone else but this will take me a while to get my head around. If I told people outside of fandom this it would sound so petty. But for so many of us, music is life, I know it is for me. Anyway, I’m sorry this turned into an essay, I feel horrible for feeling a bit sorry for myself, because honestly my thoughts are with the victims and anyone who’s been directly affected by this. But let’s be real, it is really shit as a fan, I never thought this would happen to this fandom. Couldn't have put it better myself. Being a Kasabian fan is more tribal than most other bands. That's why it has shaken us all to the core. I've had exactly the same feelings as you. Tom's actions are utterly deplorable but he has been just as good to the boys as they have to him in these 23 years. I hope they don't leave him in the gutter, even though he might deserve it right now. This latest statement does indicate the door won't be left ajar for him.
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Post by lindas on Jul 7, 2020 20:20:31 GMT
Just caught up on the latest statement. Feel sad and sickened by it all. I really hope Tom has some support. Cannot comment on social media about this anymore. Someone on twitter called me up on my support of ‘health always coming first’ which was based totally on the statements of yesterday. Things have changed a lot since then. Personally, I think this has to be the end of Kasabian. Very sad times
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Post by Ang1 on Jul 7, 2020 20:22:01 GMT
He was the best frontman in recent times ,the way he worked the crowd up but they can't take him back.I would rather see them split up for good then take him back.They may get a new frontman other bands do and still have success,some of my best gigs were of Kasabian and have so many good memories its just a shame that he didn't get help and realise he had a lot of issues obviously much more than what we originally thought
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Post by stepstr on Jul 7, 2020 21:12:11 GMT
Hi everyone. It's been a while since we all gathered together here.
I'll go straight to the point.
I'll say at the very beginning that I'm as shocked and devastated by the news as you all are. I will also add that I do support Kasabian's *bigger* statement with both of my hands and here's why:
The situation happened back in April so it's been at least two months since. I'm absolutely sure that the band has been well aware of it quite early. I do believe that Tom had been advised to post his own big statement before it all appeared in the media. I'm absolutely gutted to realize that he decided not to do so. I'm absolutely gutted to realize that he decided to do 'an evening with Tom Meighan' in June, which you had to buy tickets to participate in. But leave the money, it's not a first thing here. I'm heavily disappointed that he was so casual on that evening, talking about a great new Kasabian record, mentioning that he's doing totally fine. I didn't realize the Serge-centered webposting for the last couple of years but I've read all the posts here and I see it now. I don't think this has been a priority reason to cause Tom's bad mental state and alcohol problems though.
I do love Kasabian. I have always been treasuring Tom Meighan's stage presence as well his signature voice and I always will. But I'm really, really disappointed in him as in a person.
I apologize for my English being quite bad due to the lack of practice.
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Post by bury420 on Jul 7, 2020 22:09:13 GMT
Hi everyone. It's been a while since we all gathered together here. I'll go straight to the point. I'll say at the very beginning that I'm as shocked and devastated by the news as you all are. I will also add that I do support Kasabian's *bigger* statement with both of my hands and here's why: The situation happened back in April so it's been at least two months since. I'm absolutely sure that the band has been well aware of it quite early. I do believe that Tom had been advised to post his own big statement before it all appeared in the media. I'm absolutely gutted to realize that he decided not to do so. I'm absolutely gutted to realize that he decided to do 'an evening with Tom Meighan' in June, which you had to buy tickets to participate in. But leave the money, it's not a first thing here. I'm heavily disappointed that he was so casual on that evening, talking about a great new Kasabian record, mentioning that he's doing totally fine. I didn't realize the Serge-centered webposting for the last couple of years but I've read all the posts here and I see it now. I don't think this has been a priority reason to cause Tom's bad mental state and alcohol problems though. I do love Kasabian. I have always been treasuring Tom Meighan's stage presence as well his signature voice and I always will. But I'm really, really disappointed in him as in a person. I apologize for my English being quite bad due to the lack of practice. your English is great. I am signing your statememt 100%. It saves me to write one ... it's all one big mindf*ck.
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Post by sidneh on Jul 8, 2020 2:35:42 GMT
The band's over.
Serge always had desires to be more than just "the guitar player in Kasabian" and he's not going to want to continue with the stench of this hanging over the name of his band.
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