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Post by highroyds on Jul 8, 2020 6:56:11 GMT
The situation happened back in April so it's been at least two months since. I'm absolutely sure that the band has been well aware of it quite early. I do believe that Tom had been advised to post his own big statement before it all appeared in the media. I'm absolutely gutted to realize that he decided not to do so. I'm absolutely gutted to realize that he decided to do 'an evening with Tom Meighan' in June, which you had to buy tickets to participate in. But leave the money, it's not a first thing here. I'm heavily disappointed that he was so casual on that evening, talking about a great new Kasabian record, mentioning that he's doing totally fine. I didn't realize the Serge-centered webposting for the last couple of years but I've read all the posts here and I see it now. I don't think this has been a priority reason to cause Tom's bad mental state and alcohol problems though. I do love Kasabian. I have always been treasuring Tom Meighan's stage presence as well his signature voice and I always will. But I'm really, really disappointed in him as in a person. I agree, the Evening with Tom was a very strange move in hindsight. The second one was cancelled because of technical difficulties, I wonder if that was an excuse. I don't think people are saying HQ favouring Serge over him somehow affected his mental health. It's all just theories at this point anyway. I think whatever was posted that came directly from the band would have come from Serge, so a lot of what the others did (not just Tom) kind of got left behind. But it's possible that the more recent things he did, like the NHS session in his garden or the Evening with Tom, weren't promoted because they were already trying to distance themselves from him.
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Post by runningbattle on Jul 8, 2020 9:31:28 GMT
I can't deny that this all still feels like some kind of bad dream.
As a massive football fan, it's almost akin to my club folding, that's how important Kasabian has been in my life. Unfortunately, Tom lost sight of his responsibilities as a role model and has paid the ultimate price.
*Sigh*
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Post by clouds on Jul 8, 2020 17:21:32 GMT
Tom’s statement
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Post by highroyds on Jul 8, 2020 17:34:12 GMT
I can't even bear to read these anymore.
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Post by shazza on Jul 8, 2020 17:41:20 GMT
Has it actually been well documented that he’s been treated for alcoholism before though? I honestly don’t recall hearing about it, but could be wrong. I had a feeling he’d share that he’d had an ADHD diagnosis. I have it myself, and was only diagnosed a few years ago. I don’t like to speculate about people, but I’d recognised it in him (and not just in the “joking“, stereotypical ways people said he had it). I know what you mean highroyds . I still have the horrific details from the court case in my mind. Edited to add, it’s sad when a famous person only reveals they have ADHD when they need to try and explain something awful. Same thing happened with Ant Mcpartlin. No one should have to reveal they have it of course, it’s just that we could use some more positive examples too!
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Post by runningbattle on Jul 8, 2020 18:36:18 GMT
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Post by lindas on Jul 8, 2020 20:24:07 GMT
I don’t really have any more words. I hope this is the end of issuing statements. As I said before - I hope Tom gets the support he needs. It seems his fiancée wants them to save their relationship from what I’ve read. I also hope the rest of the band go on to achieve success in their own right, but individually. I can’t see how Kasabian can continue. One thing though, which may be controversial, and in no way excuses what Tom did, but i find it odd that no-one has mentioned that this happened in the midst of lockdown. It’s bound to have had an impact on anyone already suffering from other issues and I just hope support is out there for anyone in a similar situation. As a family we’ve been dealing with a cancer diagnosis and subsequent operation and recovery which has certainly been more difficult in current times. As I say, I’m not making excuses, far from it, but I do think lockdown may have played a part in all of this.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 8, 2020 20:27:06 GMT
Has it actually been well documented that he’s been treated for alcoholism before though? I honestly don’t recall hearing about it, but could be wrong. I never heard anything until yesterday. He hinted at all sorts of things going on in 2016. Let me dig up that Q article. "This time last year [May 2016] I would have had about six drinks by now," allusions to rock n roll excesses, "a build up from years and years and years," but insisting that he's not depressed and didn't go to therapy, because I guess that's for really troubled and gross people according to YILWAP. Throughout the article both of them say he's all better now and he's sorted it out. Serge is being protective. There was an interview a long time ago, like 2006 or something, where they were talking about Pete Doherty and said if that sort of thing happened to one of them, nobody would ever know about it because they would look after each other and take care of it behind the scenes. So who knows, maybe he did have treatment at some point. Serge's occasional comments that he can be scary when he's drunk feel much more sinister now. Maybe this all still stems from that time, maybe he never truly worked through it and just jumped into the next relationship. I don't know when he got together with Vikki, I didn't think it was four years like it says everywhere, that would have been very soon after his breakup. They got matching bracelets of a 2017 date and I kind of assumed that must be either when they met or got together. I really hope this was a wake up call. Go to therapy. There's no shame in getting help when you're struggling.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 8, 2020 20:35:37 GMT
I don’t really have any more words. I hope this is the end of issuing statements. As I said before - I hope Tom gets the support he needs. It seems his fiancée wants them to save their relationship from what I’ve read. I also hope the rest of the band go on to achieve success in their own right, but individually. I can’t see how Kasabian can continue. One thing though, which may be controversial, and in no way excuses what Tom did, but i find it odd that no-one has mentioned that this happened in the midst of lockdown. It’s bound to have had an impact on anyone already suffering from other issues and I just hope support is out there for anyone in a similar situation. As a family we’ve been dealing with a cancer diagnosis and subsequent operation and recovery which has certainly been more difficult in current times. As I say, I’m not making excuses, far from it, but I do think lockdown may have played a part in all of this. I'm wishing you and your family all the best and lots of strength. I thought of the lockdown as well. In the past he repeatedly talked about feeling "trapped" when they weren't touring and he had to sit at home and wait for Serge to write a new album. And that was when he could freely leave the house. I keep saying he seemed more content recently, but we only see glimpses.
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Post by Ang1 on Jul 8, 2020 20:43:54 GMT
The thing i am struggling to understand is that he said it was an isolated incident but it was reported in the Guardian piece that the Police had been called out before?
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Post by highroyds on Jul 8, 2020 20:47:16 GMT
He's wearing a Kasabian t-shirt.
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Post by clouds on Jul 8, 2020 20:52:04 GMT
The thing i am struggling to understand is that he said it was an isolated incident but it was reported in the Guardian piece that the Police had been called out before? Did they say why the police were called out? May not have necessarily been called out for violence. Not a great sign anyway.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 8, 2020 20:53:12 GMT
The thing i am struggling to understand is that he said it was an isolated incident but it was reported in the Guardian piece that the Police had been called out before? The way I understand it is that she said it was an isolated incident, but they're implying that it wasn't as the police had been called before. Of course it might have been for an unrelated reason, as there were no previous charges that we know of.
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Post by levitate on Jul 9, 2020 2:38:03 GMT
I've had enough of these statements. I don't care what Tom has to say. The only statements I'll be interested in going forward would be from Serge/the band regarding the future of Kasabian/S.L.P.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 9, 2020 7:41:44 GMT
I had a feeling he’d share that he’d had an ADHD diagnosis. I have it myself, and was only diagnosed a few years ago. I don’t like to speculate about people, but I’d recognised it in him (and not just in the “joking“, stereotypical ways people said he had it). Edited to add, it’s sad when a famous person only reveals they have ADHD when they need to try and explain something awful. Same thing happened with Ant Mcpartlin. No one should have to reveal they have it of course, it’s just that we could use some more positive examples too! Forgot to reply to this yesterday. It does sound unfortunate to bring it up in this context. Maybe he included it to show that he's been seeking out help. I hope he won't be using any diagnoses as an excuse.
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