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Post by levitate on Jul 7, 2020 10:05:23 GMT
It's not about whether the band, his fans or even his girlfriend can forgive him unfortunately. In a post #metoo world the media (and social media) seldom give men like Tom second chances. It's sad as fuck but that's the way it is.
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Post by lindas on Jul 7, 2020 10:25:01 GMT
Cannot condone his behaviour but I do worry for him, a lot. The media will be all over this sadly. I hope he has good support around him.
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Post by levitate on Jul 7, 2020 10:27:47 GMT
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Post by lindas on Jul 7, 2020 10:49:47 GMT
I feel let down by all of this. Sad for Tom and hope he gets the support he needs and also the punishment he deserves. Sad for his ex fiancée and family, sad for the rest of Kasabian and sad for us the fans.
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Post by shazza on Jul 7, 2020 10:53:12 GMT
I really hope people leave the other person involved alone. Agreed 100%. This is all just so sad. What he’s done is obviously unforgivable. I feel so naive but it seems so out of character for him. I completely condemn his actions. I am worried about him though (and I feel bad saying that, like the concern is misplaced). I think as fans we all thought we had a good idea of the kind of person he is, and there’s no doubt he’s very sensitive. But maybe this goes to show that often you don’t really know what a person is like.
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Post by runningbattle on Jul 7, 2020 10:55:54 GMT
I feel let down by all of this. Sad for Tom and hope he gets the support he needs and also the punishment he deserves. Sad for his ex fiancée and family, sad for the rest of Kasabian and sad for us the fans. Absolutely. There needs to be proportionate punishment and rehabilitation before anyone can look further than that. As others have said, thoughts are with his ex fiancee who will no doubt be traumatised by this entire ordeal. It's absolutely vital that the offence is not only condemned but used as a learning experience that Tom can regenerate from. We all have to hope and pray this is his personal life bottoming out and that brighter times are ahead for him - with or without the band.
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Post by runningbattle on Jul 7, 2020 11:37:34 GMT
"The police have been called before and there is evidence of previous abusive behaviour. Ms Ager says what happened was an isolated event."
I'm finding this all really heartbreaking to read, it really is. When you've nailed your heart and colours to the Kasabian mast for so long (my entire teenage and early adult years) it all feels like a bad dream :-(
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Post by levitate on Jul 7, 2020 11:41:00 GMT
I'm really fucking glad I took yesterday's news as an excuse to have a big Kasabian binge. Don't think I could go through with it today.
At least I finally got around to listening to The SLP today. There are some great tunes on that disc. It might not seem like much, but it's given me cause for optimism going into the future.
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Post by lindas on Jul 7, 2020 11:46:00 GMT
I couldn’t listen to them yesterday and not sure I can today now upon hearing this news.
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Post by westrydermaniac7 on Jul 7, 2020 12:15:08 GMT
How sure can we be about this?I'm not British but I know Sun isn't to be trusted. When the announcenment came the first thing I thought it was Tom facing depression and now I'm seeing this.If it's all true,I don't really know what to say.That's a hell of a shock.
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Post by levitate on Jul 7, 2020 12:18:22 GMT
How sure can we be about this?I'm not British but I know Sun isn't to be trusted. When the announcenment came the first thing I thought it was Tom facing depression and now I'm seeing this.If it's all true,I don't really know what to say.That's a hell of a shock. The case went to trial, Tom pled guilty, and it's since been covered by most of the reputable news sites. Details of the assault have come to light, and it's 100x worse than I could've imagined. He was very lucky to avoid jail time.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 7, 2020 12:54:50 GMT
How sure can we be about this?I'm not British but I know Sun isn't to be trusted. When the announcenment came the first thing I thought it was Tom facing depression and now I'm seeing this.If it's all true,I don't really know what to say.That's a hell of a shock. If you can stomach the details, look at the Guardian article. It's really bad. I think we all thought of mental health issues. Nobody expected this. On a weird level I feel manipulated, we all supported him instantly and wholeheartedly and he was like "lol thanks" knowing this was going on. Should have held out on a statement until today. I hope this doesn't turn into "how could his fans support him" somewhere down the line.
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Post by dingo on Jul 7, 2020 13:10:18 GMT
I think we all learned our lesson, waiting for the details next time before we jump to conclusions. Of course, PR wise, it wasn't handled too well and whoever told HIM that tweet yesterday was a good idea needs to have a good think. At the moment it feels to me as if he destroyed the whole band's legacy in one stroke. I will continue listening to Kasabian, maybe not right now, but I guess I will stop mentioning them and I don't think I will be interested in anything he does in future. I guess it will depend in how he will deal with that, some of the details make the whole horrible story even more damning.
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Post by westrydermaniac7 on Jul 7, 2020 13:13:35 GMT
How sure can we be about this?I'm not British but I know Sun isn't to be trusted. When the announcenment came the first thing I thought it was Tom facing depression and now I'm seeing this.If it's all true,I don't really know what to say.That's a hell of a shock. The case went to trial, Tom pled guilty, and it's since been covered by most of the reputable news sites. Details of the assault have come to light, and it's 100x worse than I could've imagined. He was very lucky to avoid jail time. Didn't have time to check.Now I am doing my research and I'm so so disappointed.I hope he gets the punishment he deserves and find his way somehow. Now I can see why many of people here wrote that they can't listen to them these days.
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Post by westrydermaniac7 on Jul 7, 2020 13:24:23 GMT
How sure can we be about this?I'm not British but I know Sun isn't to be trusted. When the announcenment came the first thing I thought it was Tom facing depression and now I'm seeing this.If it's all true,I don't really know what to say.That's a hell of a shock. If you can stomach the details, look at the Guardian article. It's really bad. I think we all thought of mental health issues. Nobody expected this. On a weird level I feel manipulated, we all supported him instantly and wholeheartedly and he was like "lol thanks" knowing this was going on. Should have held out on a statement until today. I hope this doesn't turn into "how could his fans support him" somewhere down the line. I unfortunately did read that but I wished I hadn't.I agree ,he should have been waiting for a more appropriate time to make a statement. I believe he probably will make one again,since more details come on surface.
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