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Post by zeneo on Jul 29, 2014 7:05:43 GMT
I got the entire video downloaded as soon as it was out through TubeMate. To be honest, I found the starting few seconds having similar noise to the Empire video (the kinda grass brushing against something). I did not understand the violent nature at first until I stupidly decided to search for 'Moshpit.' I don't remember the band's name (Death Grips? Supposedly not.), but they do a Wall of Death or something during a song in which the crowd split and run against each other. The theme during the chorus doesn't see to imagine fans as barking dogs (I knew someone would say that), but remember that Sergio was talking about "moshpit mentalness", so could be a reference of dogs barking when they hear (supersonic?) noises, especially the belief that there are ghosts lurking among the people. Well, it's just a interpretation, but I have been known to be wrong a couple of times. Side notes - Sergio's Golden Rickenbacker ♡
Exaggeration with the drums, I don't like.
Seeing dog genital in the vid somewhere. I don't like.
Serge jacket, I like.
PeTA, maybe they don't like.
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Post by vlad on Jul 29, 2014 16:46:03 GMT
Poor choice for a single, I love bumblebee but the mainstream wont.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 29, 2014 16:57:24 GMT
Poor choice for a single, I love bumblebee but the mainstream wont. Really? I was watching Twitter 24/7 when I was waiting for the album leak that never happened, and the reaction to Bumblebeee was 90% positive I would say, whereas quite a lot of people disliked Eez-eh. Bumblebeee and Stevie seemed much more instant, especially after the Jools performance. But it was always going to be a single.
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Post by vlad on Jul 30, 2014 10:45:05 GMT
Well that maybe the case, I still can't see it getting higher than Eezeh, I really hope it does though.
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Post by jayfreeman on Jul 30, 2014 20:00:17 GMT
I agree with Vlad when he says Bumblebee is not really radio friendly. As a matter of fact neither is Eez-eh. But i think the guys are not looking to attract mainstream audience with the singles. If there were, they would choose other songs, like Bow, Glass, probably Clouds or Stevie.
It looks like the idea behind the singles is to give the taste of the album, to show its spirit. In this case the choice of singles makes sense, at least to me.
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Post by highroyds on Jul 30, 2014 20:53:56 GMT
But i think the guys are not looking to attract mainstream audience with the singles. If there were, they would choose other songs, like Bow, Glass, probably Clouds or Stevie. Glass is probably the only song that got more hate than Eez-Eh. I think Bumblebeee is classic Kasabian.
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Post by jayfreeman on Jul 30, 2014 21:07:27 GMT
But i think the guys are not looking to attract mainstream audience with the singles. If there were, they would choose other songs, like Bow, Glass, probably Clouds or Stevie. Glass is probably the only song that got more hate than Eez-Eh. I think Bumblebeee is classic Kasabian. Bumblebeee is certainly classic Kasabian. This is probably the very reason they made a single from it - serve the fans in the first place and attract people who look pass radio-friendly hits. But what do you mean Glass is hated? I like it a lot. It is also placed perfectly - right after Treat and Doomsday. So first they explode you brain, and then heal it a little;)
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Post by highroyds on Jul 30, 2014 21:27:04 GMT
But what do you mean Glass is hated? I like it a lot. It is also placed perfectly - right after Treat and Doomsday. So first they explode you brain, and then heal it a little;) In lots and lots of reviews and even more comments around the interwebs people were like "wtf is this and what is that shit rapping?" Which is stupid of course, most of them don't seem to get it, but I'm currently trying to stop feeling like it's my job to run after everyone going nooo it's actually SPOKEN WORD POETRY YOU GUYS
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Post by stannis on Jul 30, 2014 23:09:20 GMT
As a matter of fact neither is Eez-eh. I'd argue that eez-eh's one of their more radio friendly songs, but with their classic sideways twist on it! I liken it to the title track from Velociraptor! in terms of role on the album. It hit #22 in the UK (highest in five years) and was A-listed by Radio 1. They've got their spot in the mainstream "collage" sewn up now. It's Kasabian and Muse who represent the 2000s UK guitar scene pretty much, in amongst your Katy Perrys, Rihannas and One Directions. That's their spot. It's genuinely a great achievement, when you look at the state of their peers. Kaisers (well, Ricky Wilson) are unashamedly courting the music reality show promotional tactic and haven't had a song that's connected with the public quite like their first record. The Killers can't keep the ball rolling lately and seem to dislike touring for long periods of time. Bloc Party equalled but never rose above their debut album heights. Franz Ferdinand's profile is a case of diminishing returns each time (at least in the UK). Maximo Park peaked years ago. Razorlight too. The Fratellis. The Music split up. Cooper Temple Clause split. It's incredible how many bands from that decade aren't up there. Kasabian legitimately were the only band from the big 2004 burst of new mainstream pop and rock acts that maintained a steady upwards trajectory. I think they could be at that point where almost anything they release will be A-listed. bumblebeee's on the A-list this week. In the age of Spotify playlists, that's nothing to take for granted either! I reckon Kasabian are there now. You can tell from the quality of press coverage this time around. Clueless journos are pumping out factually lightweight shite for the masses, for lack of a better term. It's awful obviously, but it's a sign of making it in this country! Kasabian are on the mountain peak in the UK.
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Post by cuttoff on Jul 31, 2014 9:34:59 GMT
As a matter of fact neither is Eez-eh. It's Kasabian and Muse who represent the 2000s UK guitar scene pretty much, in amongst your Katy Perrys, Rihannas and One Directions. That's their spot. It's genuinely a great achievement, when you look at the state of their peers. Kaisers (well, Ricky Wilson) are unashamedly courting the music reality show promotional tactic and haven't had a song that's connected with the public quite like their first record. The Killers can't keep the ball rolling lately and seem to dislike touring for long periods of time. Bloc Party equalled but never rose above their debut album heights. Franz Ferdinand's profile is a case of diminishing returns each time (at least in the UK). Maximo Park peaked years ago. Razorlight too. The Fratellis. The Music split up. Cooper Temple Clause split. It's incredible how many bands from that decade aren't up there. Kasabian legitimately were the only band from the big 2004 burst of new mainstream pop and rock acts that maintained a steady upwards trajectory. That's so true. I remember how excited I was about all those new bands in 2002-2004, they were all so promising but most of them run out of ideas after the first album and Kasabian keep evolving with every album.
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Post by Ang1 on Jul 31, 2014 11:57:34 GMT
Besides Kasabian and Muse ,Manic Street Preachers are still doing well.Watching them on tv doing TITP they are still a great band .I never tire of JDB his voice is just superb.A little bit off subject I know.
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Post by jayfreeman on Jul 31, 2014 18:51:29 GMT
But what do you mean Glass is hated? I like it a lot. It is also placed perfectly - right after Treat and Doomsday. So first they explode you brain, and then heal it a little;) In lots and lots of reviews and even more comments around the interwebs people were like "wtf is this and what is that shit rapping?" Which is stupid of course, most of them don't seem to get it, but I'm currently trying to stop feeling like it's my job to run after everyone going nooo it's actually SPOKEN WORD POETRY YOU GUYS Well, "haters gonna hate", but i can see your frustration. Also many people seem to have a problem to absorb new staff. In this case i wonder why they even listen to Kasabian;) It goes to the "professional" reviewers in the first place, who always complain that bands fail to introduce a new sound with their new record. Not in case of Kasabian, but many other artists.
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Post by jayfreeman on Jul 31, 2014 19:15:46 GMT
It's Kasabian and Muse who represent the 2000s UK guitar scene pretty much, in amongst your Katy Perrys, Rihannas and One Directions. That's their spot. It's genuinely a great achievement, when you look at the state of their peers. Kaisers (well, Ricky Wilson) are unashamedly courting the music reality show promotional tactic and haven't had a song that's connected with the public quite like their first record. The Killers can't keep the ball rolling lately and seem to dislike touring for long periods of time. Bloc Party equalled but never rose above their debut album heights. Franz Ferdinand's profile is a case of diminishing returns each time (at least in the UK). Maximo Park peaked years ago. Razorlight too. The Fratellis. The Music split up. Cooper Temple Clause split. It's incredible how many bands from that decade aren't up there. Kasabian legitimately were the only band from the big 2004 burst of new mainstream pop and rock acts that maintained a steady upwards trajectory. That's so true. I remember how excited I was about all those new bands in 2002-2004, they were all so promising but most of them run out of ideas after the first album and Kasabian keep evolving with every album. That is quite an article you have written;) Well i agree with most of the points, but want to note something. We are actually spoilt a little by plenty of quality music. This is a good thing i guess, but if you compare our time with 1950's, we have got to choose from much more bands and genres, styles and tastes. And if before two or three decent songs were enough to make an album people would love, now we want all tracks perfect. It is very difficult to make good music. And if somebody makes even one decent album (like The Music with their first one), the effort is worth while. And by the way there are a couple of more alternative bands who keep rocking, like UNKLE, Skunk Anansie, Placebo, Arctic Monkeys (even that i do not listen to the last two), maybe some more. Kasabian are an exception, because they have made 5 perfect albums, and are getting better. I know only one band who managed to make all their records objectively perfect until Kasabian - it is Led Zeppelin. Even the big monsters like Pink Floyd and Beatles had their weak moments. So we should be gratefull that we are witnessing the rise of a new one-of-a-kind band;) As for radio friendly songs, it is not that Eez-eh sounds bad on the radio, but the difference with listening to it on the record is huge. A song that is initially meant as radio-hit usually sounds the same. Like the whole new album of Coldplay, which was quite a dissappointment to me. In this sense Kasabian do not have radio-friendly songs at all (maybe only Goodbye Kiss). This might be the reason they are not number one in USA. But to me it is a big attraction point, because the best experience you get on live gigs and listening to a record, not to a radio.
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Post by stannis on Aug 4, 2014 16:17:32 GMT
Well, a slightly concerning fact is that bumblebeee's digital EP hasn't entered the iTunes Top 200 yet. With pre-orders coming into effect the minute it's released, you'd expect a sudden jump and decline as the week went on.
The 48:13 copy of bumble is currently sitting at #175 (eight below eez-eh!). With the vinyl bump being a fortnight away yet, and streaming not likely to have much of an effect, we could have the lowest peaking Kasabian single in the Top 200.
I was going to originally say "of all time", but I forgot about Man of Simple Pleasures. It somehow didn't even crack the Top 200 with a vinyl batch. There must have been miniscule digital downloads and alongside an acoustic gig in The Box, London, a week before, there were no promo performances of the tune due to the gruelling U.S. tour of 2012.
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Post by highroyds on Aug 4, 2014 18:15:41 GMT
I was going to originally say "of all time", but I forgot about Man of Simple Pleasures. It somehow didn't even crack the Top 200 with a vinyl batch. There must have been miniscule digital downloads and alongside an acoustic gig in The Box, London, a week before, there were no promo performances of the tune due to the gruelling U.S. tour of 2012. I thought MOSP was the worst and unlikeliest choice for a single anyway. It's probably one of my favourite songs on the album, but it was ridiculous, having another slow one after Goodbye Kiss, and it wasn't exactly popular. I thought Velociraptor would be the last single, especially with that Sticks & Bones remix snippet turning up. The MOSP video was pretty pointless as well, which can't have helped. And then the whole Switchblade Smiles thing happened, or rather didn't. Like an omen for things to come.
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